{"id":49759,"date":"2022-12-16T21:27:04","date_gmt":"2022-12-16T20:27:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=49759"},"modified":"2024-12-16T03:00:53","modified_gmt":"2024-12-16T02:00:53","slug":"the-new-vcr-dragon-armored-vehicle-of-the-spanish-army-and-the-controversy-over-its-size","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/16\/the-new-vcr-dragon-armored-vehicle-of-the-spanish-army-and-the-controversy-over-its-size\/","title":{"rendered":"The new VCR Drag\u00f3n armored vehicle of the Spanish Army and the controversy over its size"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Next Tuesday, December 20, the first seven Dragon Wheeled Combat Vehicles (VCR) will be delivered to the Spanish Army.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/06\/16\/the-new-spanish-vcr-dragon-shows-its-missile-with-artificial-intelligence-to-destroy-tanks\/\">The new Spanish VCR Drag\u00f3n shows its missile with artificial intelligence to destroy tanks<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/11\/25\/soldiers-from-spain-and-latvia-train-to-fight-in-a-wooded-and-snowy-environment\/\">Soldiers from Spain and Latvia train to fight in a wooded and snowy environment<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p>As we have already seen here, in 2020 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2020\/08\/26\/defensa-firma-la-compra-de-348-blindados-vcr-8x8-dragon-dejando-algunas-incognitas\/\">the Spanish Ministry of Defense signed the purchase of 348 vehicles of this type<\/a> for an amount of 1,740 million euros. <strong>It is expected that they will replace the BMR-600 armored vehicles and the VEC M-1 Cavalry Exploration Vehicles.<\/strong> Currently, the Army has 648 BMR-600 and 135 VEC M-1, so that 348 Dragon VCRs are not enough. Already in 2020 there was talk of <strong>a second phase in which another 348 vehicles would be contracted and a third with 287 more armored vehicles.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52567705284_554f4b3fe1_o.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Already before its entry into service, <strong>a controversy has been generated about the size of the Dragon VCR<\/strong>. In January, Jes\u00fas M. P\u00e9rez Triana, a security and defense analyst, published <a href=\"https:\/\/guerrasposmodernas.com\/2022\/01\/06\/vehiculo-dragon-demasiado-grande-demasiado-caro-y-demasiado-tarde\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">an interesting article on his blog Guerras Posmodernas<\/a> addressing the issue of the excessive size of this armored vehicle and <strong>the challenges that this can pose for its transportation aircraft<\/strong>, not only because of its size, but also because of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensa.com\/espana\/n-35-toneladas-peso-vcr-8x8-dragon-para-ejercito-tierra-limita\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">its weight, which is estimated at 35 tons<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52566967142_440fd0eb35_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>According to the Spanish Ministry of Defense, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensa.gob.es\/Galerias\/dgamdocs\/programa-A400M.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the Airbus A400M Atlas It has a maximum cargo capacity of 37 tons<\/a>, and as the <a href=\"https:\/\/observatorio.cisde.es\/actualidad\/a400m-cuatro-anos-en-servicio\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">CISDE Observatory<\/a> has pointed out the cargo hold of this plane measures 17.7 meters long, 4 meters wide and 3.85 meters high, which would allow it to be accommodated. The problem comes from the fact that<strong> the A400M's ramp only supports a weight of 32 tons<\/strong>, a limit that would exceed the Dragon VCR by 3 tons.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/militaryleak.com\/2020\/08\/31\/german-air-force-tests-loading-of-boxer-armoured-fighting-vehicle-in-a400m\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Germany already ran into this same problem two years ago<\/a><strong> with its 8x8 Rheinmetall Boxer armored vehicles<\/strong>, which also weigh 35 tons. However, the Luftwaffe has already carried out load tests on the Boxer successfully, due to the fact that <strong>it is a modular vehicle: a mission module is installed at the rear<\/strong> according to the needs of the operation, which can be disassemble for air transport. <strong>In the event of having to transport two Boxers, the Luftwaffe would need three A400Ms:<\/strong> two to transport the vehicles and one more to transport the two mission modules.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Ladungssicherung extrem: GTK Boxer im A400M | Bundeswehr\" width=\"665\" height=\"374\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7xlu2OznZaE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>The problem with the VCR Dragon is that, unlike the Boxer, it is not a modular vehicle.<\/strong> It does not have a rear mission module that can be easily removed. In any case, <strong>its turret could be removed<\/strong> to reduce its weight, but it is not an easy process. The Spanish Army and the Spanish Air Force will have to see how to solve this problem.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52567705164_eecbc9ec68_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Regarding the size of the Dragon VCR, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Roberto_Montesa\/status\/1603419771944534022\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">this photo published yesterday by Roberto Guti\u00e9rrez has been highly commented<\/a> showing a presentation of this vehicle by Tess Defense, the manufacturer consortium, at the Toledo Infantry Academy. <strong>This photo has reignited the controversy about the \"giantism\" of the Dragon VCR<\/strong>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AurelioGiansira\/status\/1603747106874920960\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">even with comments from Italy<\/a>. In case we want to get a better idea of the dimensions of the new vehicle, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/diaz_writer\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">David D\u00edaz<\/a>, author of excellent pictures about Spanish Army vehicles that <a href=\"https:\/\/ultimaratioregispublicaciones.wordpress.com\/tag\/ultima-ratio-regis-publicaciones\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has published in various books<\/a> (I recommend them), <strong>made this comparison between the Dragon VCR, the BMR-600 and the VEC M-1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52567024812_dc9f5de2c2_o.jpg\" style=\"width:661px; height:auto; border:2px solid #7F7261;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As can be seen, <strong>the Dragon VCR dwarfs its predecessors<\/strong>. The reasons for this increase in size, as Jes\u00fas M. P\u00e9rez Triana pointed out in the aforementioned article, are the reinforcement of the protection that these new vehicles bring against land mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs). <strong>Not unique to the Dragon VCR. We have already seen that the same thing happens with the Boxer, and there are more cases.<\/strong> In this image published in 2018 by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.warfareblog.com.br\/2018\/01\/artec-gmbh-boxer-mrav-mais-um-gigante.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Warfare Blog<\/a> we can see the tests that the Australian Army did in 2018 of the <strong>Boxer CRV<\/strong> (first from the left) and the Finnish <strong>Patria AMV<\/strong> (second from the left). Here we see them next to an M-1A1 Abrams main battle tank and an LAV-25 armored vehicle.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52567762629_70fe2d5a70_o.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>There are more examples of \"gigantism\" in other 8x8 armored vehicles<\/strong>, such as the Chinese Type 08, the Israeli Eitan AFV, the Turkish Otokar Arma, the Russian VPK-7829 Bumerang. the French VBCI and American Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV).<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52566967197_975ea35ecf_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The problem does not affect only 8x8 armored vehicles, nor is it a recent problem. <strong>Remember that the small M151 MUTT SUV was replaced by the big Humvee<\/strong>, and this in turn has given way to the even bigger <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2020\/04\/17\/una-demostracion-de-las-capacidades-del-jltv-el-vehiculo-que-sustituye-al-humvee\/\">Oskosh JLTV<\/a>. As in the case of the 8x8, the raison d'\u00eatre of this \"giganticism\" is to offer more protection to the crews of the vehicles, even if that means reducing their deployment capacity. <strong>The paradox is that these large vehicles have left a gap that is being filled by smaller vehicles<\/strong>, capable of being transported in tactical transport aircraft or in C-47 Chinook helicopters, such as the M1161 Growler, the American Polaris MRZR and SRTV and the Spanish \"mechanical mule\" Falcata.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52567427401_8f558a4473_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; margin:10px 0 10px 0;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>---<\/p>\n<p><small>Photos: Ej\u00e9rcito de Tierra \/ Tess Defense.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Next Tuesday, December 20, the first seven Dragon Wheeled Combat Vehicles (VCR) will be delivered to the Spanish Army.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,11544],"tags":[10972,10557,14093],"class_list":["post-49759","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-army","tag-rheinmetall-boxer","tag-spanish-army","tag-vcr-dragon"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-07-15 07:40:49","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49759","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49759"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49759\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49759"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49759"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49759"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}