{"id":49977,"date":"2023-01-09T07:07:55","date_gmt":"2023-01-09T06:07:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=49977"},"modified":"2024-01-09T00:47:01","modified_gmt":"2024-01-08T23:47:01","slug":"this-is-how-we-would-have-to-describe-what-happened-in-brazil-if-the-left-had-done-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2023\/01\/09\/this-is-how-we-would-have-to-describe-what-happened-in-brazil-if-the-left-had-done-it\/","title":{"rendered":"This is how we would have to describe what happened in Brazil if the left had done it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This Sunday, hundreds of followers of Jair Bolsonaro <a href=\"https:\/\/www.libertaddigital.com\/internacional\/mundo\/2023-01-08\/cientos-de-seguidores-de-bolsonaro-invaden-el-congreso-y-piden-una-intervencion-militar-para-derrocar-a-lula-6973677\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">assaulted<\/a> the buildings of Congress, the Presidency and the Supreme Court of Brazil.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/10\/31\/lulas-anti-democratic-friends-these-are-the-ones-who-gain-from-his-return-to-power\/\">Lula's anti-democratic friends: these are the ones who gain from his return to power<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/11\/07\/the-red-october-of-1917-a-coup-detat-against-a-democracy-not-against-tsarism\/\">The 'Red October' of 1917: a coup d'\u00e9tat against a democracy, not against tsarism<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p>The use of violence to try to take over the institutions in a democratic country, whoever does it, is something that always deserves to be condemned. But it has not always been so. Let's look at some examples that will serve to illustrate <strong>how we would have to describe what happened in Brazil if the left had done it.<\/strong> Because when the left does it, resorting to more violence than the one used yesterday in Brazil and even causing deaths, the words \"coup\" never appear. Why will it be?<\/p>\n<div class=\"foto_piedefoto\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/52616574270_cf5aeda755_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto;\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"piedefoto\">Bolsheviks armed with rifles parade down Nikolskaya Street in Moscow, with a banner bearing the word \"Communism\", during the Bolshevik coup in November 1917.<\/div>\n<p><big>They call a communist coup d'\u00e9tat 'revolution'<\/big><\/p>\n<p>On November 7, 1917, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/11\/07\/the-red-october-of-1917-a-coup-detat-against-a-democracy-not-against-tsarism\/\">the communists staged a coup in Russia and seized power by force<\/a>. By then, the Czar had been overthrown months ago and what was in Russia was a nascent democracy. <strong>The characteristic of this coup is that it was perpetrated before the elections<\/strong>, scheduled for November 25. Despite the coup, the Bolsheviks maintained the electoral call and lost it: the Social Revolutionaries won with 41% compared to 23.5% for the Bolsheviks, but<strong> despite their electoral defeat, the communists remained in power for 74 years.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was clearly a coup, but <strong>many call it the \"October Revolution\"<\/strong> (in Russia the Julian calendar was used and November 7th was October 25th on that calendar). This is how it appears on <a href=\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Revoluci\u00f3n_de_Octubre\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the Spanish Wikipedia<\/a> and on <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/October_Revolution\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the English Wikipedia<\/a>, for example.<\/p>\n<p>Five years ago, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2017\/11\/07\/el-comunista-alberto-garzon-ensalza-el-golpe-de-estado-que-impuso-la-dictadura-de-lenin\/\">the current Minister of Consumption of Spain, the communist Alberto Garz\u00f3n, extolled that coup d'\u00e9tat<\/a> stating that that day <em>\"the sun rose in the East encouraging the working class everyone to free themselves from their chains\".<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/agarzon\/status\/1612198432550289408\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Yesterday, this same minister stated:<\/a> <em>\"The Trumpist far-right is a global danger to democracy\"<\/em>. If anyone is surprised by such cynicism,<strong> let's remember that the communists have called their dictatorships \"democratic republics\".<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"foto_piedefoto\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/923\/42762383104_b73c51df4e_o.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto;\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"piedefoto\">Coup leaders armed with rifles during the October 1934 socialist coup in Asturias.<\/div>\n<p><big>They call a coup d'\u00e9tat in Spain a 'revolution' or a 'strike'<\/big><\/p>\n<p>On October 5, 1934, after having lost the general elections of the previous year, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2020\/09\/19\/asi-fue-el-golpe-de-estado-de-1934-contra-la-2a-republica-que-el-psoe-no-quiere-condenar\/\">the socialists of the PSOE and the communists of the PCE staged a violent and bloody coup d'\u00e9tat<\/a> in Spain against a center-right democratic government. During this attack on democracy, which had its epicenter in Asturias,<strong> the coup leaders murdered 33 priests and religious and 300 soldiers and members of the security forces<\/strong> and destroyed 17 churches, 40 religious buildings and dozens of factories, bridges, houses and public buildings. Also, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2017\/10\/15\/lluis-companys-los-siniestros-hechos-que-la-propaganda-separatista-no-quiere-que-sepas\/\">far-left ERC separatists carried out their own coup in Catalonia<\/a>, <strong>which left 107 dead.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are, once again, before a very clear coup d'\u00e9tat, but since the left did it, then it must be called something else. <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.ph\/jEBbc\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">On the PSOE website they call it the \"Asturian revolution\"<\/a>. In turn, <a href=\"https:\/\/pce.es\/historia-del-pce\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the PCE website calls it the \"revolutionary general strike of October 1934\" <\/a>. In turn, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.esquerra.cat\/ca\/historia-esquerra-fets-octubre-preso-i-retorn-1936\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the web from ERC calls it \"Events of October 1934\"<\/a>, and justifies the coup by blaming the \"involutionism of the Spanish right\". <a href=\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Revoluci\u00f3n_de_Asturias_de_1934\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Spanish Wikipedia speaks of \"Revoluci\u00f3n de Asturias de 1934\"<\/a> (meaning , assuming the term used by the PSOE, the main promoter of that coup, to disguise it) while <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Asturian_miners%27_strike_of_1934\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia in English he talks about \"Asturian miners' strike of 1934\"<\/a>. Was what happened yesterday in Brazil a \"strike\" or a \"revolution\"? Let's see if the PSOE, the PCE and Wikipedia clarify it for us...<\/p>\n<p>Let us also remember that in 2021, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/17\/pedro-sanchez-said-he-would-imitate-a-socialist-leader-who-led-a-coup-detat\/\">the current president of the government of Spain, Pedro S\u00e1nchez, called to imitate Francisco Largo Caballero<\/a>, <strong>the main ringleader of that leftist coup d'\u00e9tat of 1934<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"foto_piedefoto\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/4482\/37489656400_4c9bb40d37_o.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto;\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"piedefoto\">Civil Guard vehicles destroyed by the coup leaders in 2017 in Catalonia.<\/div>\n<p><big>They call a coup d'\u00e9tat in Catalonia a 'process' or 'public disorder'<\/big><\/p>\n<p>In Spain, and specifically <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2017\/10\/21\/applying-the-constitution-is-not-a-coup-the-coup-is-to-violate-it-to-break-spain\/\">in the region of Catalonia, there was another coup in 2017<\/a>, when the separatist regional government tried to suspend the Spanish Constitution, break the national unity and separate Catalonia from the rest of Spain. <strong>Those responsible for the coup were convicted of crimes of sedition and embezzlement of public funds.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>However, since the current government of <strong>Pedro S\u00e1nchez has the ERC separatists -involved in that coup- as parliamentary allies<\/strong>, to continue enjoying their support <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/27\/separatism-is-already-preparing-its-next-coup-as-vox-warned-in-its-lawsuit-against-sanchez\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has agreed to repeal the offense of sedition<\/a> (reducing it to mere \"aggravated public disorder\") and has even lowered the offense of embezzlement of public funds. In view of the success, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/27\/separatism-is-already-preparing-its-next-coup-as-vox-warned-in-its-lawsuit-against-sanchez\/\">S\u00e1nchez's separatist associates have already announced that they will carry out a new coup<\/a>, with the difference that now the rule of law will be legally disarmed against the coup plotters because of S\u00e1nchez.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, what happened in 2017 was also a coup, but once again the left did it and then we have to give it another name. <a href=\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Proceso_soberanista_de_Catalu\u00f1a_de_2012-2021\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Spanish Wikipedia calls it the \"sovereignty process\"<\/a>. Now we just need to know if what happened yesterday in Brazil is a \"process\" or \"aggravated public disorder.\"<\/p>\n<p>---<\/p>\n<p><small>Lead photo: Bolsheviks armed with rifles in Petrograd, present-day Saint Petersburg, during the Bolshevik coup in November 1917.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Sunday, hundreds of followers of Jair Bolsonaro assaulted the buildings of Congress, the Presidency and the Supreme Court of Brazil.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,10373],"tags":[18210,12242,18079,18211],"class_list":["post-49977","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-world","tag-bolshevik-coup-detat-of-1917","tag-brazil","tag-coup-detat-of-1934","tag-coup-detat-of-2017-in-catalonia"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-08-12 02:49:23","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49977","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49977"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49977\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49977"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49977"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49977"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}