{"id":54267,"date":"2023-12-19T07:01:40","date_gmt":"2023-12-19T06:01:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=54267"},"modified":"2025-12-19T00:16:57","modified_gmt":"2025-12-18T23:16:57","slug":"the-antidemocratic-attitude-of-historical-socialists-whom-the-psoe-still-claims","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2023\/12\/19\/the-antidemocratic-attitude-of-historical-socialists-whom-the-psoe-still-claims\/","title":{"rendered":"The antidemocratic attitude of historical socialists whom the PSOE still claims"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Spanish Socialist Workers Party (PSOE) is a party that has been claiming the role of dispenser of democrat titles for many years.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/17\/pedro-sanchez-said-he-would-imitate-a-socialist-leader-who-led-a-coup-detat\/\">Pedro S\u00e1nchez said he would imitate a socialist leader who led a coup d'\u00e9tat<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2023\/09\/09\/the-spanish-left-and-its-illegal-amnesties-for-coup-plotters-the-case-of-february-21-1936\/\">The Spanish left and its illegal amnesties for coup plotters: the case of February 21, 1936<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p>This pretentious attitude <strong>aims to convey, without any disguise, that those of us who are not socialists or leftists are not democrats<\/strong>, all while protecting in its particular concept of democracy the supporters of communist totalitarianism, the sympathizers of ETA or the authors of the 2017 separatist coup in Catalonia. In reality, <strong>the PSOE has been a historically undemocratic party<\/strong>, and to verify this it is enough to review the attitudes of historical leaders of that party whom the PSOE still claims. Let's look at some examples.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/c2.staticflickr.com\/8\/7863\/32282288987_95092934cc_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><big>Pablo Iglesias Posse: terrorist threats in Parliament<\/big><\/p>\n<p>The <strong>founder of the PSOE<\/strong>, whose portrait appears today in all the headquarters of that party, gave an incendiary speech on July 7, 1910, during the debate of the Crown's speech, in the Cortes: <em>\"this party has not changed its mind regarding this matter; <strong>it will be within the law as long as the law allows it to acquire what it needs; outside the law<\/strong>, as all parties have been, <strong>when she does not allow him to realize his aspirations<\/strong>.\"<\/em> It was a clear display of contempt for the rule of law, which is the very basis of democracy.<\/p>\n<p>In that same speech, <strong>Pablo Iglesias threatened to kill the conservative deputy Antonio Maura<\/strong>, with words that the PSOE has never condemned: <em>\"we have reached the extreme of considering that <strong>before His Honorable rise to power we must come to personal attack<\/strong>\"<\/em>. On July 22, 1910, fifteen days after the founder of the PSOE issued that threat, <strong>Maura suffered a terrorist attack<\/strong>, in which he was shot and wounded in the leg and arm.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/50447224968_092a3c7c0e_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><big>Francisco Largo Caballero supported violence and defended a dictatorship<\/big><\/p>\n<p>He was <strong>president of the PSOE<\/strong> between October 1932 and December 1935, during the Second Republic. On August 12, 1933, at the Socialist Summer School, he stated: <em>\"Today I am convinced that <strong>carrying out socialist work within a bourgeois democracy is impossible<\/strong>.\"<\/em> Then he stated: <em>\"Not only outside our ranks, but within them, there are those who fear that it would be necessary to establish a dictatorship. If this happens, what would be our situation? Because we <strong>we cannot renounce nor can we carry out any act that tends to prevent the achievement of this aspiration<\/strong>\"<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>A month later, in statements to the weekly 'Renovaci\u00f3n' of the Socialist Youth, Largo Caballero stated: <em>\"<strong>I don't know how there is someone who has such horror at the dictatorship of the proletariat<\/strong>, possible workers' violence. Is not workers' violence a thousand times preferable to fascism? In the last extreme, <strong>is not bourgeois democracy a system of oppression and violence?<\/strong>\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In November of that same year, at a PSOE rally in Don Benito (Badajoz), <strong>Largo Caballero threatened: <em>\"We are going to tear down the private property regime\"<\/em><\/strong>, one of the rights currently recognized by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 17). Immediately afterwards, he launched a new threat: <em>\"I say that <strong>the bourgeoisie will not accept a legal expropriation. It will have to be expropriated by violence<\/strong>\"<\/em>. In case there was any doubt about what the then president of the PSOE intended, he made it very clear: <em>\"<strong>we will carry out the revolution violently<\/strong>\"<\/em>, he stated, and added: <em>\" This, the enemies will say, is inciting civil war. Let's face reality. There is a civil war.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A few months later, on April 20, 1934, at an event of the Socialist Youth, Largo Caballero stated: <em>\"I maintain the criterion that <strong>political power must be seized revolutionaryly<\/strong>, and that it is It is foolish to get the illusion that we are going to be able to take control of it in any other way, I have to state that <strong>the revolution is not made with shouts<\/strong> of long live Socialism, long live communism and long live anarchism. <strong> It is done violently<\/strong>\"<\/em>. A few months later, his party put those threats into practice and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/10\/27\/siete-ejemplos-del-pasado-criminal-del-psoe-del-que-se-olvida-en-su-memoria-democratica\/\">led a bloody coup d'\u00e9tat against the Republic<\/a>, then with a center-right government that emerged from the general elections of November 1933.<\/p>\n<p>It was not the last time that Largo Caballero exhibited his contempt for democracy. On January 27, 1936, <strong>at a PSOE rally in Alicante, he threatened a civil war if the right won the elections:<\/strong> <em>\"if the right wins, our work will have to be twofold, because with our allies we will be able to work within the law, and <strong>with the rights winning we will have to go to declared civil war<\/strong>.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Two years ago, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/12\/17\/pedro-sanchez-said-he-would-imitate-a-socialist-leader-who-led-a-coup-detat\/\">the current general secretary of the PSOE, Pedro S\u00e1nchez, called to imitate Largo Caballero<\/a> in a speech given at a rally of the socialist union UGT: <em>\"<strong>He acted as Today we want to act<\/strong>\"<\/em>, said the current president of the government of Spain.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/48830056336_41077d8c3c_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><big>Margarita Nelken: against women's right to vote<\/big><\/p>\n<p>She was <strong>a PSOE deputy during the Second Republic<\/strong>, and although she joined the Communist Party of Spain during the Spanish Civil War, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2019\/10\/02\/margarita-nelken-los-crimenes-de-una-diputada-del-psoe-que-tiene-calles-dedicadas-a-su-nombre\/\">the PSOE has dedicated streets to her in 20 Spanish cities<\/a>. A dubious tribute taking into account the things that Nelken said, for example in her book <em>\"Woman before the Constituent Cortes\"<\/em>, in which she <strong>rejected the possibility of granting the right to vote to women. women for fear of what they might vote for:<\/strong><em>\"Putting a vote in the hands of women is today, in Spain, realizing one of the greatest desires of the reactionary element\"<\/em>. Nelken added: <em>\"Spanish women who truly love freedom must be the first to <strong>postpone their self-interest to the progress of Spain<\/strong>.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/53407406730_b4d99c88c7_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><big>Indalecio Prieto threatened another deputy in Parliament with a pistol <\/big><\/p>\n<p>As he himself recognized, <strong>this socialist deputy was one of the ringleaders of the 1934 coup d'\u00e9tat<\/strong>. On July 4 of that same year, during a parliamentary session, <strong>Prieto unholstered his pistol and pointed it at the right-wing deputy Jaime Oriol de la Puerta<\/strong>, an unprecedented event in Spanish democratic history. The next day, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.es\/archivo\/periodicos\/abc-madrid-19340705.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the newspaper Abc reported what happened<\/a> page 18): <em>\"Mr. Prieto advanced from his seat, relatively far away, <strong>took out a pistol, cocked it and made to shoot at Mr. Oriol<\/strong>, who was fallen on a seat. He did not manage to shoot, but he was seen attacking the CEDA deputy with the weapon.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Despite these facts, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.psoe.es\/actualidad\/entrevistas-actualidad\/prieto-en-su-obra\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the PSOE continues openly claiming Indalecio Prieto<\/a>, and even <a href=\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Estatua_de_Indalecio_Prieto\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">dedicated a statue to him in the area of New Ministries in Madrid<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It is intolerable that a party with these references is dedicated to giving lessons on democracy<\/strong>. If the PSOE continues to vindicate characters like those we have just seen, it is because, deep down, <strong>that party continues to maintain the same contempt for democracy that they exhibited<\/strong>. And the PSOE must be reminded of this every day.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Spanish Socialist Workers Party (PSOE) is a party that has been claiming the role of dispenser of democrat titles for many years.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,10375],"tags":[3508,3405,3404,1275,693,10796],"class_list":["post-54267","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-history","tag-francisco-largo-caballero","tag-indalecio-prieto","tag-margarita-nelken","tag-pablo-iglesias-posse","tag-psoe","tag-socialism"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-08-12 00:35:47","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54267","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=54267"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54267\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=54267"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=54267"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=54267"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}