{"id":57772,"date":"2024-11-16T07:00:35","date_gmt":"2024-11-16T06:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=57772"},"modified":"2025-11-16T02:04:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-16T01:04:08","slug":"socialist-olaf-scholz-does-putin-a-great-favor-by-breaking-his-isolation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/11\/16\/socialist-olaf-scholz-does-putin-a-great-favor-by-breaking-his-isolation\/","title":{"rendered":"Socialist Olaf Scholz does Putin a great favor by breaking his isolation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On Friday, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz revealed that he had made a phone call to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/10\/29\/the-polish-presidents-questions-to-those-calling-for-ukraine-to-give-in-to-russia\/\">The Polish president's questions to those calling for Ukraine to give in to Russia<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/10\/27\/how-to-distinguish-whether-someone-wants-peace-in-ukraine-or-intends-to-favor-russia\/\">How to distinguish whether someone wants peace in Ukraine or intends to favor Russia<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p><big>Scholz calls for Russia to withdraw, but Putin refuses to do so<\/big><\/p>\n<p>Via Twitter, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Bundeskanzler\/status\/1857440825157865965\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Scholz said<\/a>: <em>\"I spoke to President Putin on the phone and<strong> called on him to end the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine and to withdraw his troops<\/strong>. Russia must show willingness to negotiate with Ukraine - with the aim of achieving a just and lasting peace.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>According to the Associated Press, <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/scholz-putin-germany-russia-8b5d020dbfaedcbc59f6f3b7f1cbedaf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">German government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit gave more details of that conversation<\/a>, <strong>specifically, that it lasted an hour<\/strong> and that the Russian dictator responded that any peace agreement <em>\"should <strong>recognize Russia's territorial gains<\/strong> and its security demands, including that Kiev renounce joining NATO.\"<\/em> In other words, <strong>Putin wants to keep part of Ukraine for himself and turn the rest into a Russian protectorate.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><big>Zelensky criticises Scholz's call to Putin<\/big><\/p>\n<p>As expected, <strong>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has not taken the German Chancellor's move well<\/strong>. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.president.gov.ua\/en\/news\/minska-3-ne-bude-nam-potriben-realnij-mir-zvernennya-prezide-94433\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a video released yesterday<\/a> he said: <em>\"Chancellor Scholz told me that he is going to call Putin. <strong>Olaf's call, in my opinion, is Pandora's box.<\/strong> Now there may be other conversations, other calls. Just a lot of words. <strong>And this is exactly what Putin has wanted for a long time: it is crucial for him to weaken his isolation. Russia's isolation.<\/strong> And to engage in negotiations, ordinary negotiations, that will lead to nothing. As he has been doing for decades. <strong>This allowed Russia to change nothing in its policy, to do nothing substantial, and ultimately it led to this war.<\/strong> We understand all these challenges now. We know how to act.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Zelensky added: <em>\"A<strong>nd we want to warn everyone: there will be no Minsk-3; what we need is real peace.<\/strong>\"<\/em> With this statement, Zelensky is referring to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Minsk_agreements\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the two Minsk agreements signed in 2014 and 2015<\/a> between Ukraine and Russia, after Russian troops invaded part of Ukraine in support of pro-Russian separatists. <strong>Those agreements only served for Putin to cajole the world<\/strong> into believing that it is possible to reach an understanding with a tyrant who invades a neighboring country because he is obsessed with reviving Russian imperialism. <\/p>\n<p><big>A big favor from Scholz to the Russian dictator<\/big><\/p>\n<p><strong>With this call, Scholz has done Putin a great favour by breaking his isolation<\/strong> and giving him hope of continuing to manipulate the international community and public opinion. Personally, <strong>I don't think Scholz would spend an hour asking Putin to leave Ukraine<\/strong>. It takes much less time to transmit this message and receive the Russian dictator's response, even having to wait for the interpreters to translate.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, <strong>what Scholz has done is a common vice of German politics: talking to Russia about Ukraine without Ukraine.<\/strong> This was already done by the socialist Gerhard Schr\u00f6der and the centrist Angela Merkel, two politicians who did Putin great favors with the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines and with their regrettable policy of closing nuclear power plants, <strong>making Germany dependent on Russia for energy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><big>With Russia there is only one possible negotiation<\/big><\/p>\n<p>Scholz, Donald Trump, Viktor Orb\u00e1n and other politicians must understand that <strong>Ukraine's demand is very simple and easy to understand: that the Russian invaders leave its territory.<\/strong> It is the same thing that Scholz, Trump and Orb\u00e1n would demand if their countries were invaded by a foreign force. <strong>With an invader who is murdering Ukrainian civilians,<\/strong> who has been torturing and murdering Ukrainian prisoners of war, who has perpetrated massacres of unarmed Ukrainian civilians, and who has kidnapped and deported Ukrainian children (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.europapress.es\/internacional\/noticia-tpi-emite-orden-arresto-contra-putin-deportacion-forzada-ninos-ucranianos-20230317162539.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant against Putin for this<\/a>), <strong>the only possible negotiation is with arms.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><big>It is Russia that started this invasion, it is Putin who does not want peace<\/big><\/p>\n<p>In the face of the lies that some are spreading, we must remember that <strong>it is not Ukraine that wanted war, nor do those of us who support Ukraine want it<\/strong>. This war was started by Russia because Vladimir Putin has insisted on treating Ukraine as if it were a Russian colony. <strong>If this war continues, it is exclusively the fault of Russia and its allies<\/strong>, such as Iran, North Korea and communist China, which have been providing military aid to the invading country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>If anyone truly wants peace, they should support Ukraine<\/strong>, because engaging in talks with Russia or proposing talks with Putin's regime only serves to <strong>give the invader hopes of gaining benefit from this aggression<\/strong>, which is unacceptable if we want to maintain an international order based on rules, and not on giving in to the whims of thugs like Putin.<\/p>\n<p>---<\/p>\n<p><small>Photo: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bundeskanzler.de\/bk-de\/mediathek\/woche-des-kanzlers-2320852\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Der Bundeskanzler<\/a>.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Friday, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz revealed that he had made a phone call to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,10373],"tags":[10929,16361,10731,16153,15307,7887,16074],"class_list":["post-57772","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-world","tag-germany","tag-olaf-scholz","tag-russia","tag-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-of-2022","tag-ukraine","tag-vladimir-putin","tag-volodimir-zelenski"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-08-12 03:53:40","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57772","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=57772"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57772\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=57772"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=57772"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=57772"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}