{"id":58007,"date":"2024-12-08T21:33:28","date_gmt":"2024-12-08T20:33:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=58007"},"modified":"2025-12-08T00:48:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-07T23:48:12","slug":"the-neuron-stealth-drone-frances-option-for-spain-to-buy-the-rafale-f5-fighter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/12\/08\/the-neuron-stealth-drone-frances-option-for-spain-to-buy-the-rafale-f5-fighter\/","title":{"rendered":"The nEUROn stealth drone, France's option for Spain to buy the Rafale F5 fighter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This week we have learned some statements from the Chief of Staff of the Spanish Air Force about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/12\/03\/the-spanish-air-force-the-f-35-and-the-characteristics-of-three-possible-alternatives\/\">the F-35 and its alternatives<\/a>.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/12\/03\/the-spanish-air-force-the-f-35-and-the-characteristics-of-three-possible-alternatives\/\">The Spanish Air Force, the F-35 and the characteristics of three possible alternatives<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/05\/24\/the-four-candidates-of-the-spanish-air-force-to-replace-its-old-f-5m\/\">The four candidates of the Spanish Air Force to replace its old F-5M<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p>Last Tuesday you were able to read here <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2024\/12\/03\/the-spanish-air-force-the-f-35-and-the-characteristics-of-three-possible-alternatives\/\">an article on that issue<\/a>, reviewing the three alternatives that Spain could consider to avoid buying the F-35. <strong>One of those alternatives would be the Dassault Rafale, the French competitor of the Eurofighter.<\/strong> In that article I mentioned that the Rafale does not have stealth capabilities like the F-35 and, if it were to buy the French fighter, <strong>Spain would be betting on a model that has been in service for more than 20 years.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/53883465175_00e12da83e_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, in recent days several French media specialising in defence issues have addressed this issue. Of the articles I have read, the most striking is <a href=\"\/\/www.opex360.com\/2024\/12\/04\/larmee-de-lair-espagnole-va-t-elle-se-laisser-tenter-par-le-rafale-f5\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the one written by Laurent Lagneau in Zone Militaire<\/a>, in which he states the following: <em>\"<strong>the purchase of the Rafale F5 would undoubtedly be the most coherent<\/strong> insofar as, in addition to its involvement in the FCAS, <strong>Spain participated in the development of the nEUROn combat drone demonstrator<\/strong>. In addition, Madrid and Paris signed a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defense.gouv.fr\/sites\/default\/files\/ministere-armees\/20230112_Trait%C3%A9_de_coop%C3%A9ration_d%C3%A9fense_FR-ES%20%28alternat%20FR%20version%20FR%29.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">agreement<\/a> aimed at strengthening their military cooperation, particularly in the arms industry.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54190543147_4d849236b8_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>About the Rafale F5 and Spain's experience with French fighters, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.avionslegendaires.net\/2024\/12\/actu\/le-dassault-aviation-rafale-f5-pourra-t-il-remplacer-les-ef-18a-b-hornet-espagnols\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Avions Legendaires points out<\/a>: <em>\"<strong>the Rafale F5 has something in its favor<\/strong> that its potential competitors do not have: the heritage of Dassault Aviation. Because <strong>in the past, Spain flew with Dassault Mirage IIIEE and then with Mirage F1CE\/EE<\/strong>. These two fighter aircraft models have left a very beautiful mark on the history of Spanish aeronautics.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191438731_5d95a5eacb_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In these lines we can find <strong>the key to a possible purchase of the Rafale F5 by Spain: the nEUROn<\/strong>, an unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) that made its first flight on December 1, 2012. <strong>This experimental project sought to create a stealthy drone<\/strong>, that is, with a very reduced radar signature, like the F-35, but without a pilot.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191438746_47bf1c647a_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The first nEUROn mock-up was unveiled at the Paris Air Show in 2005. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.adacore.com\/press\/neuron-unmanned-aircraft\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Spain joined the project in 2006 through EADS CASA<\/a>. Other countries collaborating on nEUROn include Greece, Italy, Switzerland and Sweden. <strong>The project is led by French company Dassault Aviation, the manufacturer of the Rafale.<\/strong> So far, nEUROn has made more than 170 test flights.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191440021_3a1fdb13ef_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Spanish contribution to this project is important: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.adacore.com\/press\/neuron-unmanned-aircraft\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">EADS CASA is responsible for the wing, ground control and data link segments in this project<\/a>. <strong>The nEUROn would be a flying wing type aircraft<\/strong>, that is, without vertical planes (like the B-2 Spirit bomber) and with a delta wing. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.infodefensa.com\/texto-diario\/mostrar\/3074855\/eurofighter-espanoles-entrenan-ucav-neuron-ejercicio-francia\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">In November 2017, two Spanish Eurofighters from Wing 11 evaluated the low radar signature of the nEUROn<\/a>, in a test carried out from the French air base of Istres.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191882040_b61f460f30_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On October 8, 2024, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dassault-aviation.com\/en\/group\/press\/press-kits\/unmanned-combat-aerial-vehicle-program-kicks-off-as-part-of-the-rafale-f5-standard\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">S\u00e9bastien Lecornu, Minister of Defense of France, announced the launch of the development of a UCAV to complement the Rafale F5<\/a>, which will be the standard version of this fighter in the French Air Force from 2030. About this project, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dassault-aviation.com\/en\/group\/press\/press-kits\/unmanned-combat-aerial-vehicle-program-kicks-off-as-part-of-the-rafale-f5-standard\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dassault Aviation stated<\/a>: <em>\"<strong>It will benefit from the achievements of the nEUROn programme, Europe's first stealth UCAV demonstrator<\/strong>.\"<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191688743_5d95a5eacb_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On October 11, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.infodefensa.com\/texto-diario\/mostrar\/5027446\/francia-lanza-programa-drones-combate-ligado-caza-rafale-pone-peligro-fcas\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the Spanish website Infodefensa warned that the Rafale F5 and its UCAV endanger the FCAS<\/a>, <strong>the sixth-generation fighter project on which Germany, Spain and France are collaborating<\/strong>, an aircraft that could enter service, at the earliest, in 2040. In his article in Infodefensa, Gin\u00e9s Soriano warned that <strong>with the Rafale F5 and the successor to the nEUROn, France would have capabilities similar to those of the FCAS but ten years earlier<\/strong> and at a lower cost.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191438806_0839c27846_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The possibility that France decides to go for the Rafale F5 and abandon the FCAS could be motivated by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2021\/06\/15\/el-jarro-de-agua-fria-de-alemania-sobre-el-caza-fcas-en-el-que-colabora-con-espana-y-francia\/\">Germany's reluctance to use this sixth-generation fighter<\/a> and by the difficult negotiations between the Germans and the French over the project.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191688798_eccaa20936_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>With the Rafale F5, France has the option of offering Spain an advanced fighter that is compatible with a UCAV whose development has had Spanish participation.<\/strong> In addition, this aircraft would allow Spain to avoid the technological leap of going from a fourth-generation fighter like the EF-18 to a sixth-generation fighter like the FCAS. At the same time, <strong>the successor to the nEUROn would allow Spain to have a stealth aircraft without buying the F-35<\/strong>, although it would leave it outside the already large club of NATO countries that have a manned stealth fighter.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54191688743_5d95a5eacb_b.jpg\" style=\"width:100%; height:auto; border:0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Obviously, at this point, many of us will be asking the same question: <strong>what about the replacement of the Spanish Harrier II?<\/strong> The only thing I can think of is that an option arises that few have contemplated until now but that <a href=\"https:\/\/breakingdefense.com\/2024\/11\/turkey-joins-drone-carrier-operations-club-with-first-takeoff-and-landing-from-turkish-ship\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Turkey has already tested on a sister ship of the Spanish aircraft carrier<\/a>: <strong>operating drones from the flight deck and that the Navy ends up buying the nEUROn<\/strong> or its successor. The problem, of course, is that the nEUROn can operate from an aircraft carrier like the Spanish one. By adopting this option, the Spanish Navy would take a very different course than its counterparts in the US, Italy and the United Kingdom, which do operate the F-35.<\/p>\n<p>---<\/p>\n<p><small>Photos: Dassault Aviation \/ Ej\u00e9rcito del Aire \/ Arm\u00e9e de l'Air.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week we have learned some statements from the Chief of Staff of the Spanish Air Force about the F-35 and its alternatives.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,11546],"tags":[23242,8064,7072,11875],"class_list":["post-58007","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-military-aviation","tag-dassault-neuron","tag-dassault-rafale","tag-lockheed-martin-f-35-lightning-ii","tag-spanish-air-force"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58007","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58007"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58007\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58007"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58007"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58007"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}