{"id":58840,"date":"2025-02-27T18:00:48","date_gmt":"2025-02-27T17:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=58840"},"modified":"2026-02-27T00:33:20","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T23:33:20","slug":"yesterday-eta-today-putin-the-same-rubbish-to-support-giving-in-to-criminals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2025\/02\/27\/yesterday-eta-today-putin-the-same-rubbish-to-support-giving-in-to-criminals\/","title":{"rendered":"Yesterday ETA, today Putin: the same rubbish to support giving in to criminals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have been writing this blog for 20 years, so many of its current readers were probably children 15 years ago.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2023\/03\/17\/negotiating-with-terrorists-the-infamy-that-has-been-repeated-with-eta-hitler-and-putin\/\">Negotiating with terrorists: the infamy that has been repeated with ETA, Hitler and Putin<\/a><\/rel><br \/>\n<rel><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2023\/02\/22\/how-to-know-if-someone-supports-peace-in-ukraine-or-making-war-profitable-for-russia\/\">How to know if someone supports peace in Ukraine or making war profitable for Russia<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n<p><big>A secret negotiation between the socialists and ETA<\/big><\/p>\n<p>At the time, one of the hot topics in Spain was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2011\/03\/31\/una-recopilacion-de-las-mentiras-del-gobierno-sobre-su-negociacion-con-eta\/\">the political negotiations between the socialist government of Zapatero and the ETA terrorists<\/a>. <strong>Contacts between this criminal gang and the socialists began in 2002<\/strong>, when the PSOE was in the opposition, according to the socialist newspaper <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.ph\/s5ul\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">El Pa\u00eds<\/a> in June 2007.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2011\/03\/31\/una-recopilacion-de-las-mentiras-del-gobierno-sobre-su-negociacion-con-eta\/\">The Zapatero government lied again and again about these contacts<\/a>, which finally culminated in October 2011 in <a href=\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anuncio_del_cese_definitivo_de_la_actividad_armada_de_ETA\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">an announcement by ETA<\/a> saying that it was stopping killing. An announcement that many presented as a success, but which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2011\/07\/13\/han-vuelto-a-asesinar-a-miguel-angel\/\">had as a prior concession the legalization of Bildu<\/a>, whose participation in the elections was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elmundo.es\/elmundo\/2011\/05\/02\/espana\/1304313695.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">banned by the Supreme Court in May 2011<\/a> for being a formation \"sponsored by ETA itself\". <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elmundo.es\/elmundo\/2012\/06\/20\/espana\/1340204396.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">An illegalisation overturned in 2012 by the Constitutional Court, <strong>then controlled by the socialists<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>To date, <strong>the minutes of the negotiations between the Zapatero government and ETA have not yet been published<\/strong>. They were not published by that government, nor by Mariano Rajoy's (of the Popular Party) nor by Pedro S\u00e1nchez's government. <strong>What is there to hide? What is so dishonourable that we are prevented from knowing what was conceded to ETA?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><big>ETA could have profited from having driven 180,000 Basques from their land<\/big><\/p>\n<p>The price for abandoning terrorism is not hard to imagine: <strong>ETA's political arm was legalised without having to condemn terrorism<\/strong>. In fact, even today it continues to call ETA terrorists in prison \"political prisoners\", and pays tribute to them as if they were heroes, <strong>a humiliation of the victims consented to by the S\u00e1nchez government<\/strong>. Thanks to that negotiation between the socialists and ETA, <strong>today the political arm of the terrorist group has more power than ever<\/strong> and already dreams of controlling the Basque Autonomous Community and Navarre. <strong>It is also one of the allies of the S\u00e1nchez government<\/strong>, which dances to the tune set by the heirs of ETA.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, <strong>180,000 Basques who had to leave their land because of ETA terrorism never returned<\/strong>, giving rise to an electoral roll that favours the separatist parties, granting them more representation than they would have had if all these exiles continued to live in their land. <strong>It is a success for ETA, a way of making its crimes profitable<\/strong>, which include the murder of 853 people (among them 22 children), more than 2,600 people injured and mutilated and almost 90 people kidnapped, in addition to thousands extorted.<\/p>\n<p><big>The infamies that the left launched against those of us who rejected that negotiation<\/big><\/p>\n<p>During the years of that perverse negotiation, <strong>the Spanish left frequently made the most infamous accusations<\/strong> against those of us who rejected any concession to terrorism. One of these accusations <strong>claimed that we wanted ETA to continue killing<\/strong>, thereby shifting the responsibility for these crimes from the terrorists to those of us who opposed them. <strong>Another very common lie was to claim that it was impossible to defeat ETA by police means<\/strong>, since every time a terrorist was arrested, another took his place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>They used these lies to make the rule of law bow down to these criminals,<\/strong> paying the enormous price of humiliation for the victims. <a href=\"https:\/\/fundacionvt.org\/publicacion\/379-los-crimenes-de-eta-sin-resolver\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">There are still 379 unsolved ETA crimes today<\/a>, because after the criminal gang's announcement in 2011, <strong>the left lost all interest in continuing to pursue ETA to make it pay for its crimes.<\/strong> An example of this attitude and the infamies used by the left in those years was seen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2022\/07\/14\/la-miserable-afirmacion-de-sanchez-para-intentar-que-dejemos-de-hablar-sobre-eta\/\">in 2022, when S\u00e1nchez criticized the fact that people continue to talk about ETA terrorism<\/a> in a response to In\u00e9s Arrimadas in which he used these words:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\"It has disappeared. ETA no longer exists, Your Honor. <strong>I have bad news for you and the right-wing faction: ETA no longer exists<\/strong>.\"<\/em> <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Several ETA victims were sitting on that bench<\/strong>, and S\u00e1nchez was accusing them of wanting this criminal gang to exist. Words typical of an unscrupulous and shameless politician.<\/p>\n<p><big>The same infamies against those of us who reject the idea that invading Ukraine is profitable for Putin<\/big><\/p>\n<p>It was a sad surprise for me to see that <strong>today, in the face of another negotiation with another criminal, Vladimir Putin, these infamies are being repeated<\/strong>, in which those of us who support Ukraine are accused of wanting people to continue dying <strong>for refusing to accept that the invasion is profitable for the invader<\/strong> and for asking for military aid for the invaded, who wish to continue fighting for the independence and freedom of their Homeland.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Once again, the law is being trampled on and replaced by the law of the strongest<\/strong>, in order to enter into negotiations with a gun on the table and to which the victims have not even been invited, just as happened 15 years ago in Spain. <strong>Once again, the intention is to compensate criminals in some way for having committed crimes<\/strong>, a compensation at the expense of the victims and which means sending the dangerous message that crime is profitable for those who commit it.<\/p>\n<p>The great novelty of what we see today is that <strong>some who years ago rejected this capitulation to ETA<\/strong>, who denounced it as an intolerable surrender of a democratic country to a band of totalitarian murderers, <strong>today are using the same infamies that the left launched at us then, to justify giving in to Putin<\/strong>, simply because some people see Putin in a good light. I never imagined that I would see something like this. If someone had told me 15 years ago that this would happen, I would be unable to believe it. <strong>How did we get to this point?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>---<\/p>\n<p><small>Photo: Mikhail Svetlov.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been writing this blog for 20 years, so many of its current readers were probably children 15 years ago.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[19536,10863],"tags":[3484,381,16141,710,693,2721,944,3312,7887],"class_list":["post-58840","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-we-said-yesterday","category-reflexions","tag-eh-bildu","tag-eta","tag-invasion-rusa-de-ucrania-de-2022","tag-zapatero","tag-psoe","tag-pedro-sanchez-castejon","tag-rusia","tag-ucrania","tag-vladimir-putin"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58840"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58840"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58840\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58840"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58840"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58840"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}