{"id":58931,"date":"2025-03-09T21:27:10","date_gmt":"2025-03-09T20:27:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/?p=58931"},"modified":"2025-03-12T08:13:35","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T07:13:35","slug":"some-wise-words-from-ivan-espinosa-de-los-monteros-about-the-invasion-of-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.outono.net\/elentir\/2025\/03\/09\/some-wise-words-from-ivan-espinosa-de-los-monteros-about-the-invasion-of-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"Some wise words from Iv\u00e1n Espinosa de los Monteros about the invasion of Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"

The digital newspaper VozP\u00f3puli publishes today an interesting interview with Iv\u00e1n Espinosa de los Monteros, former parliamentary spokesman for Vox.<\/p>\n

Patriots advocating surrender: a great success for the enemies of the West<\/a><\/rel>
\nYesterday ETA, today Putin: the same rubbish to support giving in to criminals<\/a><\/rel><\/p>\n

The interview can be read in full here.<\/a> There is a response in which Ivan refers to Zelensky's visit to the White House:<\/p>\n

\"Negotiating the terms on which a war will evolve in front of 40 journalists, for an hour, does not seem to me to be the way to reach peace agreements<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Always accusing the other side of wanting war... I don't know anyone who wants war<\/strong>, no one wants war, perhaps the one who started it, who probably sees it as a means to an end. Everyone wants peace, but on what terms? What will it cost?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It is a bit like the same vocabulary that has been used in Spain with ETA: \u2018We have achieved peace\u2019. We have achieved submission,<\/strong> surrender to evil, to the terrorist, to those who have achieved their goals using weapons. Faced with that, some of us thought that we could not give in. And now they tell you that if you are against the way certain things are done, what you want is war.<\/strong> \u2018Send your children over there, go to war yourself.\u2019 I think there must be some middle ground. I don't know, many people who say that, used to say other things.<\/strong>\".<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

In his next response, Iv\u00e1n insists on this question:<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"Peace, at what cost?<\/strong> In exchange for what? Who benefits? Why do we allow it? If we believe in the sovereignty of nations, which I do; if we believe in the importance of freedom,<\/strong> and I do believe; if we believe in the importance of defending certain principles and values, because tomorrow they may affect you, and I do believe; we have to see under what conditions peace is established.<\/strong> And it has to be in conditions that these values \u200b\u200bthat we are talking about are established.\"<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Anyway, I don't want to copy the whole interview here. I encourage you to read it at the link mentioned, because the interviewee says very reasonable things. I thank Iv\u00e1n for these doses of common sense<\/strong> and, above all, of coherence with the approaches in international politics that he himself has defended when he was in active politics. As you can see, it doesn't cost much to have your own criteria<\/strong>. All you need is a little willpower.<\/p>\n

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Photo: Vox Congress<\/a>.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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